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5 Replies Last post: Dec 22, 2009 1:29 PM by KHenner_BiampSupport

Revolutionary Control Idea

Dec 8, 2009 12:33 PM

mediamerge 1 posts since
Dec 8, 2009

The achilles heel of control systems when concerning audio has always been the ability to display real time meters. Polling through the communications/control port is useless as you only clog up/slow communications by constant polling and/or there are enough meters you need to monitor that makes it completely impossible.

However, if a specific port on the ip address of the unit could be dedicated to meters, and you could assign what meters constantly sent their values to this port and at what interval then you could easily implement meters in most modern 3rd party control. This should be very very simple for the Audia/Nexia platform as this is obviously already occuring when the DSP is communicating with either the design software or DaVinci. All this information is already being sent to a specific ip/port.

No other DSP I'm aware of currently gives you an useable solution for remote metering on a control system... I think it would be a tremendous advantage.

Any of you Biamp folks know any reason this couldn't be done?

Tags: audia

HST 158 posts since
Jan 22, 2008

1. Re: Revolutionary Control Idea Dec 9, 2009 9:32 AM

Hello!

This idea of a subscription model of levels was already brought up. It is a nice idea in general but I assume typical media control systems and the way they work is still too slow to really do a realistic bargraph. However I would love to see such a feature for any other function within Biamp's DSPs. Would mean, we dont have to ask for updates as we get them delivered automatically.

Bye

HST

Yeah 73 posts since
Jan 14, 2008

2. Re: Revolutionary Control Idea Dec 10, 2009 2:55 AM

in response to: HST

Might be politically incorrect but BSS does have this feature since years in BLU... you tell the system what you want to know and it reports the selected status for the rest of its live (including meters) so the whole polling becomes unnecessary. A mighty feature if you ask me!

Cheers

Chris

Raphayo 49 posts since
Jun 12, 2008

3. Re: Revolutionary Control Idea Dec 18, 2009 3:55 AM

you have some equipment you need to register wich symbol on the audio processor to get feedback automatically then you receive it, i think of the soundstructure of polycom. i know it's not the same thing as the open architecture of biamp or other product but it does the job for me.

bdamschen 1 posts since
Sep 16, 2009

4. Re: Revolutionary Control Idea Dec 21, 2009 11:24 AM

What's interesting to me is that DaVinci seems to be able to poll the audia in real time over IP no problem without encountering any of the above mentioned problems. Maybe biamp could instead let other control system manufacturers in on how they do that.

I personally hate constantly polling for volume feedback and would love to avoid it, however our users have a hard time visualizing what they're doing with out some sort of feedback on where they are in the volume range.

Anyone at Biamp want to chime in on how Davinci pulls it's real time info?

KHenner_BiampSupport 75 posts since
Jan 14, 2008

5. Re: Revolutionary Control Idea Dec 22, 2009 1:29 PM

in response to: bdamschen

I
appreciate everyone's interest in wanting a more efficient way to control and
get real time feedback from the DSP.

daVinci, Audia, and Nexia software use a closed protocol to setup subscriptions to data that is cyclic such as meters. This protocol was not designed or tested for use in third party applications. We do realize the desire to have some sort of mechanism like this in our products and have made that a priority for future products.